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#1231 - 07/01/02 09:38 PM Holland casting
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That thread's getting long...

Given that a lot of Avon fans drool over methos, Peter Wingfield might be a good bet. I can't realy comment, since I've never knowingly seen him in anything, just heard him playing a rather nasty character in The Archers. He's the right sort of age (born 1962).

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#1232 - 07/01/02 11:35 PM Re: Holland casting
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Andrew wrote in the original thread:
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Also, there's the League of Obscure British Actors site, with all sorts of other possibilities: http://www.ar.com.au/~jriddler/ba/league.html
(Some of those actors are really not very obscure ... Sean Connery, for example).


Connery is on a list of "other" British actors, that also includes the Fiennes brothers, Robbie Coltrane, even Cary Grant!

The "obscure ones" include Sean Pertwee (son of a notable Dr. Who) who was in some of the Cadfael, and Jude Law that I just watched on DVD in "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil." Neither is a Holland candidate, however.
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#1233 - 07/02/02 02:43 PM Re: Holland casting
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I always preferred Sean Pertwee as Hugh in CADFAEL -- he had surprising presence in the role, which his replacement (replacements?) have not had.

But... no, can't see him as Holland.

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#1234 - 07/02/02 03:32 PM Re: Holland casting
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I saw him in a low-grade horror flick on cable last week -- didn't catch the title. A squad of soldiers on maneuvers runs into a pack of werewolves. Very un-Holland-ish, and Pertwee has aged a lot since Cadfael.

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#1235 - 07/02/02 04:23 PM Re: Holland casting
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and Pertwee has aged a lot since Cadfael.


Haven't we all?

I think he only did it for one or two seasons. And I agree with Scrib....nobody else quite filled the bill....but, no, he isn't Holland. I was just commenting on who gets on a list of "obscure" actors.
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#1236 - 07/02/02 08:11 PM Re: Holland casting
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Catching up on some recent ideas....

Jack Davenport was also in The Talented Mr. Ripley, as the musician with whom it briefly looks as though Ripley will be happy. (You've seen the movie now, Barbara? I remember I was pushing it heavily a year or two ago, and you hadn't then.) Like Jude Law (who otherwise seems good to me for Holland), he's too young, and Davenport seems wrong in other ways too, too soft or gentle or something. Not that people can't act, but if we're armchair-casting....

Rufus Sewell is an actor I much admire (loved him in Cold Comfort Farm as the son who wanted to go to Hollywood, and he was in the original cast of Arcadia -- I also found myself walking more or less alongside him for several blocks of midtown Manhattan once). But he seems to me too broadly built for Holland, who needs to be lean and sharp-edged. But if the author feels otherwise, who am I to argue?

I like the idea of Mark Rylance (who's been the actor more or less in charge of the newly built Globe Theatre in London), but he would, as already mentioned, need to wear a hairpiece. Age and affect are right to my way of thinking though, and he was brought up in both the US and the UK (he has an American opera-singing sister), so has the right sort of indeterminate national background (and speech, if desired) too.

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#1237 - 07/04/02 06:13 PM Re: Holland casting
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I looked up Peter Wingfield and drew a blank. I watched a number of the Highlander episodes, but I just don't remember a character named Methos. I also saw the Martin Chuzzlewitt and don't remember him from that either. And that's the problem: ideally, Holland would be someone you could see once and then remember forever.

Also, I checked the Stephen Macintosh URL that Andrew posted in the other thread, but Macintosh isn't as handsome there as he was in the one glamour shot I found. Well, maybe he can act handsome.

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Rufus Sewell is an actor I much admire (loved him in Cold Comfort Farm as the son who wanted to go to Hollywood... But he seems to me too broadly built for Holland, who needs to be lean and sharp-edged. But if the author feels otherwise, who am I to argue?
Well, maybe I'd better back down on that. I mentioned I'd like to see him in something else because I don't have a clear picture in my head. And I did see him in Cold Comfort Farm -- the second one, right? Within the last decade? Must be. But I don't think I particularly noticed his body type. I really do need to see him in something else.

And yes, I have indeed seen The Talented Mr. Ripley now. It showed up on cable not long after you were first talking about it.

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#1238 - 07/05/02 12:45 PM Re: Holland casting
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Having been inspired to go and re-read the books...

Holland being British (or born in London, as he puts it) doesn't show up until Fare Play. This was the first of the books that I actually managed to get hold of, so for me Holland was British right from the start. But paying a bit more attention to this aspect on reading "You Have The Right To Reamin Silent", I presume he doesn't have an obvious British accent, or Marian would have been wondering what a Briton was doing in the FBI.

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#1239 - 07/05/02 12:59 PM Re: Holland casting
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I must say that I completely missed the "born in London" when engaged in my Barbarathon last summer, and a friend has borrowed all my BP books so I can't check.

Even if I'd noticed this, I'd still have been surprised to hear of the FBI recruiting Englishmen, and would have assumed that Holland's mother happened to be in London when he was born - maybe she worked at the US Embassy.

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#1240 - 07/05/02 03:24 PM Re: Holland casting
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Oh, I'm sure Holland had US citizenship papers by the time the FBI shanghaied him. They might even have been authentic. Or not.

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