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#1779 - 04/24/11 06:16 PM Re: Opera 3
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Hm, not a word about Capriccio. I've never felt on top of this opera, and the simulcast didn't change that. Seeing the opera for the first time made me even more aware of the long stretches of orchestral music when the singers have nothing to do. How long can you sit there watching Renée Fleming stroking her hair and caressing her face? I thought the singing was good, but I don't know that it was. I'm out of my league here.

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#1780 - 04/24/11 07:09 PM Re: Opera 3
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It has a few longueurs, but the thing about Capriccio is that it's not really about the characters, it's about Opera itself, and (like all opera), it's artificial.

The whole thing is full of in-jokes (including a not-so-subtle swipe at Italian opera singers). The Count regards opera as ridiculous (and some of Strauss's own opera subjects are quoted, discussed and rejected), but it's finally agreed that an opera about the events of the day is the one that ought to be written - and so it is, it's the one that we're watching - wheels within wheels. La Roche insists that he must have a grand exit - but his exit is, in fact, neither here nor there. The Countess asks whether it's possible to have an ending that isn't trivial - no, it isn't - the Major-Domo announces that it's time for supper!

My favourite character is Monsieur Taupe, the mole.

[This message has been edited by Andrew (edited 04-24-2011).]

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#1781 - 04/24/11 07:29 PM Re: Opera 3
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Pretty much what Barbara said. I missed Baron Ochs!
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#1782 - 04/24/11 11:12 PM Re: Opera 3
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We didn't go, because my wife feels the same way about the opera as Barbara does. I listened to it, and some of the gaps between the singing seemed to go on forever.

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#1783 - 04/25/11 12:47 PM Re: Opera 3
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Wagner's even worse. What is it with German romantics? Yes, Capriccio is an "in" opera about opera, and all the characters are types, not individuals. Taupe was onstage only a few minutes...is that why he's your favorite, Andrew? Unfortunately, the Taupe in the simulcast was the one weak spot in the cast. The guy just didn't have the voice to match the other singers. Frankly, I have to say I like the idea of this opera better than I like the opera itself. And am I the only one who found the words-vs.-music debate somewhat simplistic?

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#1784 - 04/25/11 08:13 PM Re: Opera 3
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Yes, it was a bit simplistic, but give Strauss credit for practicing what he preached as far as the inseparableness of words and music is concerned. He was writing after a long tradition of ridiculous plots like Le comte Ory and Trovatore; a little reform in that area should always be welcome. The 19th century was not a great period for theater, not until the later years when Ibsen and Chekhov began writing their realistic drama. But can you imagine Hedda Gabler set to a romantic score by Strauss? Foolish notion. If Shakespeare had written one-acts, there might have been a fit there.

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#1785 - 04/30/11 10:40 AM Re: Opera 3
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Who said it? "All you need for a good performance of Trovatore is the four greatest singers in the world."

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#1786 - 04/30/11 12:39 PM Re: Opera 3
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Caruso, wasn't it? He was one of them, of course.

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#1787 - 04/30/11 04:55 PM Re: Opera 3
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Hahahahaha! Renée Fleming must have heard you, Barbara.

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#1788 - 04/30/11 05:47 PM Re: Opera 3
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There's a good object lesson for people who say they don't believe in coincidence!

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