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#4327 - 12/27/11 03:51 PM Re: Television 2011-2012 A [Re: Lorna]
Austin
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WHAAAAAT??? Final six episodes of The Closer...NEXT SUMMER??? I thought we were seeing the final episodes now!

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#4328 - 12/27/11 06:38 PM Re: Television 2011-2012 A [Re: ]
Lorna Offline
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So did I. At least Brenda's off the hook with the lawsuit, but her name is tarnished and she didn't get her day in court. It's not quite finished yet.

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#4338 - 12/29/11 12:20 AM Re: Television 2011-2012 A [Re: Lorna]
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The solution to Brenda's problem is a cheat. She deliberately let the killer with immunity out of the car in a place where she knew he was in danger. Gabriel suggested they hang around for a while to prevent another murder, but she declined. It was a neat solution to a knotty problem (the killer should never have been given immunity), but it was still vigilante justice, even if carried out by a cop. But Brenda is off the hook because someone else did something worse than she did? The hit was ordered? How convenient.

That "solution" reminds me of another similar one. Remember Spenser for Hire, based on Robert Parker's books? In one episode, Spenser's girlfriend Susan is working on her Ph.D. and her thesis advisor lets her know that if she doesn't sleep with him, he'll never approve her dissertation. What to do? If she goes to a dean with a charge of sexual harassment, it'll be a case of she says/he says. Unprovable. So Spenser investigates the man and oh wow gosh guess what -- the advisor has committed a murder. So Spenser nails him for murder and Susan's problem melts away. How convenient.

I guess the moral of that episode is that when a woman is propositioned by a man in a position to do her harm, she should make sure he has committed some crime in the past. But both shows sidestep the real problem, Spenser moreso than The Closer, since the city of L.A. has to pay a $1 million settlement (an admission of wrongdoing). And both bring in a brand new element to make a solution possible -- the advisor's act of murder and the former gang member who ordered the hit. Deus ex machina.

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#4339 - 12/29/11 10:11 AM Re: Television 2011-2012 A [Re: Barbara]
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Well, damn! It IS a deus ex machina ending! Never saw the Spenser episode, but The Closer sure fits the bill. Invent a new bad guy to get Brenda off the hook. Ethically, I think she was completely justified in what she did. Pope let that military type talk him into granting immunity to get the killer to talk. He should have held firm. If ever there's an argument for bending the rules, it's when a system of justice is misused.

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#4342 - 12/29/11 05:41 PM Re: Television 2011-2012 A [Re: Christopher]
Austin
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When Brenda let T-Ball out in gang territory and it became clear what was going to happen, I thought "Good!" The guy had callously bl0wn away an old man and a little boy, a child...and he didn't deserve to walk away. I admired Brenda for having the guts to let street justice take its course.

But in retrospect, I can't really justify what she did. In the heat of the moment, it seemed the just thing to do, but I'm no longer sure about that. No easy solution to this one. What else could she do? There should have been something.

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#4345 - 12/30/11 09:59 AM Re: Television 2011-2012 A [Re: Barbara]
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I don't know what Brenda should have done in that situation, either. But she'd been blindsided by the prosecutors in granting T-Ball immunity.

The "Johnson Rule", however, stood her in good stead in handling the lawyer; he's going to have a protection detail watching him in everything he does from here on out.
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#4347 - 12/30/11 12:32 PM Re: Television 2011-2012 A [Re: Barbara]
Lorna Offline
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What Brenda could have done was take him to a safe place and then watch him. Low-life like T-Bone isn't going to reform, ever. He'll be in trouble again. Nail him then, not now.

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#4350 - 12/30/11 06:22 PM Re: Television 2011-2012 A [Re: Lorna]
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That wouldn't work, Lorna, because he'd have to commit another crime before he could be caught. Another crime means another victim...he might even kill again. Too big a price.

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#4357 - 12/31/11 04:37 PM Re: Television 2011-2012 A [Re: Rita]
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Let's hear from the pro in our midst. Mike, what would you have done in Brenda's place?

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#4358 - 12/31/11 06:04 PM Re: Television 2011-2012 A [Re: Christopher]
Mike Offline
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Now Chris, you don't think I'm going to say I'd dump that scumbag in a place where he'd get hurt do you?

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