Glad to see you back, Barbara. On the packing debris, check if they have a recycling program - you may be able to put the cardboard boxes out a bit at a time in the card and paper recycling. The other thing to check is if they have any household cleanup days included in the annual allowance - Mountain View has a system where each year there's a scheduled spring cleanup day, plus you can have a couple of pickups by appointment of large collections of rubbish. I suspect they've found that if they don't offer "springcleaning" services, the stuff just gets fly-tipped. There are *lots* of canyons around here with the most amazing collection of household items and old cars at the bottom.